(Unless you count the Parrot VM bytecode developed for perl6.). I'm really considering getting the elite even though I have the gaming plus. 1-D_FE. I am just going to get the max boards when they arrive. Funny thing is, when we were at Computex I asked all of the vendors "Will the fan have a passive mode", all of them said no and looked at me like i was asking the impossible. That's an insane choice. Zero compatibility issues, good fan profiles, great feature set, and I'm pretty sure gigabyte has had the AB bios update for a few weeks now so they've been really on top of bios updates so far. Which can be find replacement easily from DIY shop, if the chipset fan fails. [–]BubsyFanboy1050p60,9600GT,Win10,Pentium G4400,4GB DDR3 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]fareszrR7 3800X|CROSSHAIR VII|GTX1070 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children), What about via? But in all seriousness, the chance of you hearing this are slim unless you get a case with terrible airflow making the fan spin up. For reference, ~40 dB is the sound level of a dishwasher... idk about you guys but I wouldn't want dishwasher-level noise coming from 1 tiny fan in my room while I'm gaming, [–]MrInYourFACE 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). We did run the GPU on that board as well (had to have a GPU anyway). photoshop, after effects, ableton 10, as well as gaming. We'll have some X570 builds in the coming weeks, we'll at least see if some interesting data pops up to dive into that further. GB is not my favorite brand but they are in my top 3. [–]ON_A_POWERPLAY 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). I wanted to know whether it ever reaches that temperature if the fan doesn't turn on. Would be interesting to have a test of temperatures with bigger graphic cards for example the ASUS Strix 2070 Super which completely covers the chipset fan of the ASRock Extreme4. I didn't change anything. I would love to see like an experiment showing how hard would it be for an end user to change the fan on their own if it breaks down, but that requires a lot of tinkering. Rule 4: All posts must be related to AMD or AMD products. Oh you mean like a case header? I swapped out the chipset fan on my Gigabyte X570 ITX board for a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM. No more VIA etc. It's essentially CISC instruction --> CISC decoder --> several proprietary micro instructions --> RISC decoder, [–]BlackDE 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Everything else in my case is super cool due to 6 x case fans which create a very good airflow and all of them are silent fans so bearly not hearable but the whining of the chipset fans is very audible sometimes. AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX mobile APU in Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE exceeds 4.7 GHz and outperforms Intel Core i7-10700K desktop chip in Geekbench. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]ThrowAwayAccount5347 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children). Totally true, but charging almost 700$ for a mobo (besides all the fancy features) with passive cooling it's crazy. This spreadsheet is excellent: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview?sle=true, [–]yqtyyz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Thank you for this chart! [–]getvexd 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (9 children). Most people in the open source community, myself included, are vehemently against software patents and think they just destroy innovation and cause rent-seeking behavior. [–]yellowpasta_mech 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). [Cyberpunk] To the people claiming the SMT-Fix on 8 core CPUs is just placebo: I did 2x9 CPU-bottle-necked benchmark runs to prove the opposite. Even then, it's silent. Machine word sizes and endianness might be a headache, but everything is basically 64-bit little endian these days, so that is not as much of a problem as one would think. I remember a huge EVGA HEDT mobo that had a couple of them. [–]Jyiiga 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (5 children). I don't know the answer to this. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (4 children). In case you were concerned, I am no longer. [–]frugal_masturbaterAMD | 3900X | X570 Gigabyte AORUS Master | GTX 2080 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). A good way to stress the chipset is by running raid 0 on pcie 4.0 nvme drives. [–]ltron2 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (6 children). The PC is as dead silent as it was with my previous Z270-E / 7700k. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Not really required to run 99% of the time. Awesome suggestion, duly noted. The BIOS now correctly reports the proper rpm. Decibels can only mean so much...when pitch and tone matter a whole lot under load. I thought the auto fan-off feature was standard across the board[s] (pun intended). Welcome to /r/AMD — the subreddit for all things AMD; come talk about Ryzen, Threadripper, EPYC, Navi, the next-gen consoles, news, rumours, show-off your build and more. I built a new AMD-based system in April and it has been great apart from one issue, an annoying 'ticking' or clicking type noise. Mind you, you -can- compare Noctua's own specs compared to other fans of theirs, but thats about it. It says in the graph, but I understand it's easy to miss: Used the Silent settings for the idle comparison (because, no reason -not- to), but the default for the load comparison. Seems like a bad idea to be able to patent an instruction set. I think they wouldn't have added that fan if they could, specially with the heavy competition they have. Of course that's a sample specific thing if anything, but in general not a main concern. [–]ManaForestCBD 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (15 children). [–]jharelR7 3700X | ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 | RTX 2070 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). | Apr | Mar | Feb | Jan But it is worth keeping an eye on dust buildup in the future. As for the rest, they just took a bit longer. [–]firedrakes2990wx 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). [–]Cacodemon85 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). If you have a post you believe warrants an exception, please message us via modmail. All x570s have a chipset fan Fan noise does not appear to be a problem can’t hear mine over the other fans . I don't why more people aren't focusing on the chipset and chipset fans, but thank you for doing so. I set it to silents, but now i sound like and old dying HDD. Well in the past couple days this fan is running none stop at 100%. The finstack on the Aorus Pro is actually very nice. There's just one issue, and that's the PCH fan, it's pretty damn loud! If a manufacturer could get wifi, 3 storage m.2s, and passive cooling for ~$250 they wouldnt be able to keep up with demand at all. [–]babugz 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (5 children). Remember when nVidia nForce was a thing? On the bright side, LLVM updates would result in the software on a machine becoming faster. Just a bit low in fan headers (4 iirc, can doublecheck), but other than that pretty well rounded. Keep in mind that this is a gigabyte one which, IIRC per your measurements, is ~38 dB. I just bought this board. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf, [–]devildante1520 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Yeah, its the USB lookin' thing on the X570 Elite just below and to the right of the memory (labeled F_USB31C). I am about to order the ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WiFi) as it looks like the best choice for me but I am concerned about the lifetime of the chipset fan. I think so. [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). that actually sounds like a pretty decent solution. Show only OP | 8 Jun 2020 at 17:15 #1. The chipset fan isn't needed for shit, you can cool 15w passively with very little effort, this is purely a case of manufacturers cheaping out because a shit little laptop fan and aluminium heatspreader is cheaper/easier than a proper copper heatsink. Also, unlike AMD, VIA hasn't been as visible, whereas AMD has been around at least as a budget x86 supplier for decades, so VIA has to build a whole new reputation from scratch, and convince OEMs to incorporate their products. It's worth noting that Transmeta would probably have been a better example, they had no license and no fab license, but made an x86 processor. AT the very best can you compare one reviewers result to another. It's on their website. I didn't know it specifically needed a type C header so thats good to know. Get faster performance and keep your chipset cooler to begin with, use your 4 CPU lanes before chipset lanes. I've had the 1.6 UEFI since release day. 2017: Dec | Nov | Oct | Sep | Aug | Jul Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … Technically you could say 0 % before, but it simply never stopped. Reason why this would be interesting: If you are concerned about 1) the noise generated from the chipset fan and/or 2) the longevity of the chipset fan (afterall, a dead fan might lead to a dead motherboard), you would want to have the fan spin as little as possible for as much time as possible (with the optimal scenario being that it never spins - even under load). Otherwise you cant hook up your case's type-c port. Thanks for this, mine isn't arriving until Monday (went too fast at checkout and ended up with EggSaver that didn't even leave Newegg until Tuesday night) and this will help me sleep at night :). [–]ckmanux 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Hopefully Asus implements a fans off mode as well. That being said my 3700x runs great, I just wish I trusted any motherboard bios enough to use anything beyond the default cpu profile. [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children). (Not very nuanced, but give or take). I had no idea. [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]yqtyyz 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]rafamundezAMD|3900x|32 GB 4000 MHz CL19|Titan RTX|x570 Gigabyte Aorus I 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (3 children). Tens of dozens of ARM/RISC-V manufacturers and growing. Can you confirm that you can apply offset CPU voltage on the X570 Taichi? [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children). [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (4 children). The default balanced profile was tested, I believe. In the end after all appeals, the courts ruled that Cyrix had the right to produce their own x86 designs in any foundry that held an Intel license. Some Pentium 4s went up to 3.8Ghz before overclocking. [–]ryao 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (6 children). It would be far less difficult than trying to get a third major amd64 CPU designer to enter the market. Oct 27, 2017 4,476. [–]TheswweetRyzen 9 3900x, 32GB 3600c14, RX Vega 56 @ 1650/975 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]looncrazFlare this. Breaking this cycle would require one of three things: either AMD and Intel agree to freely license their patent portfolio openly under FRAND terms (will probably never happen); there could also be patent reform which addresses problematic rent-seeking or monopolist patenting behavior; or lastly, around 2024 or so, someone could actually try to make an x86-compatible CPU, but have completely incompatible instructions for things like AVX, that wouldn't violate patents, but this means compilers would have to be modified to optimize for both instruction sets, and switch at runtime between different codepaths depending on the CPU, and with enough pressure, maybe eventually we'd be free of the x86 duopoly. I just ordered the x570 strix-e, and I'm seriously considering canceling it and getting something else instead.... [–]ankor77 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago (9 children), I can attest to the MSI ACE being very quiet. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (1 child), Imo someone should've just ditched the 3rd full length pcie slot for extra area to get passive cooling. If it offers all the headers you need? But theres a point where selling more at a lower margin is worth it, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Impressive_Username 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Pcie 4.0 1st slot gpu lanes go straight to the CPU. [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children). Thank you so much for the very detailed response. kind of also. This is a complete non-issue....i don't understand the obsession. [–]squidz0rz3700X | GTX 1070 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Their bios implementations have always been wacky and … BenchmarkX570 Chipset Fan Noise Comparison - Who makes the quietest X570 motherboards? Gigabyte flaunts its fleet of X570 motherboards, including the passively cooled Aorus X570 Xtreme :OCheck out our sponsors. I no longer have the issue of the chipset fan spinning out of control. Yea. Sorry, I cannot. But which board has the best passive cooling? Hopefully and can figure this out but for the moment I only lost 15 percent performance. Eh, I wouldn't praise the motherboard market too much. [–]shmerl 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Rule 2: No referral or affiliate links - referral or affiliate links are not allowed. Who knows... [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (2 children). No matter how sound your theory might be, the result in practise ends up something completely different. That's significantly louder than any of these chipset fans at that distance. Tech Support Megathreads: Without spending some ridiculous amount of cash and ending up with a chipset that is liquid cooled with tubing and pumps to fail. System Name: Best AMD Computer: Processor: AMD TR4 1920X: Motherboard: MSI X399 SLI Plus: Cooling: Alphacool Eisbaer 420 x2 … Cause then chipset really starts to heat up. 4 x Front USB 2.0 ports. I don’t like the x570 boards having the tiny cooling fan on the chipset. | Jun | May /r/AMD is community run and does not represent AMD in any capacity unless specified. In the case of games, only the engine itself would be open source, not the assets of course. In theory it's possible now for companies to make independent x86 designs up to around i686 32bit, with SSE1 and any older extensions like MMX, since the patents covering those have most likely expired, but who would buy that? Again, most people in power just don't know anything about tech, so we have to suffer with their incompetence. [–]frugal_masturbaterAMD | 3900X | X570 Gigabyte AORUS Master | GTX 2080 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children). I recall it use to sit in the low 40s. What about the CISC x64? [–]St0RM53AyyMD HYPETRAIN OPERATOR ~ 3950X|X570|5700XT 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 1 year ago. In case anyone is wondering you can litterally turn the fan off with taichi. Aura Sync. I'd say the Aorus Elite is actually one of the most balanced entry X570 boards on the market. AMD Ryzen: Gain of every Zen generation on application and gaming performance, Thank you AMD for open source drivers - with their magic combined with Proton, Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux. X570 chipset fans have been described as somewhat noisy or annoying by users, and Gigabyte is looking to rectify that by adding new fan profiles to its X570 BIOS. I was thinking of getting the MSI carbon, but would rather save the money and get the Elite as long as future overclocking won't be an issue... [–]watlok3900x / 2070 Super 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago* (1 child). I am happy with it now, all back to quiet. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Ryzen 3900X / X570 Aorus Master / Strix 1080Ti, Ryzen 3700X ¦ RTX 2070S ¦Asrock x570 Taichi, AMD K6-2 500mhz 128mb PC100 RAM ATI Rage 128 Pro. All of the water cooling features are taken from another build which I liked, but I’m definitely open to any suggestions you might have. A chipset fan is 100% equivalent to a case fan you would have either on your CPU cooler or more generally your case. ps3,360 then port to pc. I said "no" to basically the whole post. Mine, too. [–]Moscato359 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]freddyt55555 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (4 children). Rule 6: No unsubstantiated rumors - rumors or other claims/information not directly from reputable sources must have evidence to support them. Wouldnt worry about that tbh. Rendered by PID 27458 on r2-app-005550a1c2b16eca0 at 2020-12-20 08:56:43.636415+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: PL. PSA: All X570 motherboards have one M.2 slot wired directly to CPU, the rest go through the chipset. Which slots did you use for load testing, because the main pci-e slot and the main nvme slot don't utilise the chipset at all, they are connected directly to the CPU. Noctua's new NF-A12x25 (On the U12 Heatsink mind you, so that does impact it a bit) measures at 40,0 dBA at 50,0 cm in our test setup (at 100% duty cycle). Clock speed is only part of the equation. [–]TheswweetRyzen 9 3900x, 32GB 3600c14, RX Vega 56 @ 1650/975 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children), Asrock allows fan stop in custom curves on the latest bios, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), I checked and 1.4 was the latest version at the time. To those who care, my X570 chipset fan noise is a non-issue (Gigabyte Aorus Master) Discussion . There are have been many reddit posts regarding how loud the chipset fan is at load. [–]WhatsthisnotgoodcompB450, R7 2700X, Vega 56, 32gb 3200mhz, NVMe 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (4 children), I have almost $150 worth of poopfans specifically to fuck off any and all fan noise, i don't need some shit little $0.10 whiny laptop blower fan defeating it all because the motherboard manufacturer was too cheap/lazy to fit a decent copper passive heatsink, [–]Foritain-Techtesters[S] 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children), That's the most aggressive I've ever heard anyone talk about their Noctua purchase. Right now I just have a 3600 to tide me over. Fair point with them not investing more on their designs but I just wanted to point out that TDP is not truly indicative of the amount of heat it generates. 1) The X570 chipset has a fan - but basically all of the X570 range except the halo-tier boards have a chipset fan. I'm waiting for the 3950X before I really dig into the tuning. A better question would be whether a dynamic library with bytecode from one version and a program linking to it that was compiled under a different (likely earlier) version would work. I think the probability that Apple will fail in their transition isn't as low as people think. I've heard that it's there since there's no thermal throttling support in the silicon, to prevent burn-up in run-away scenarios. They were actually noticably audible and a big cause of concern for me. At the moment, on my x570-e board the fan speed control for the chipset fan is not present. Default curve on mine doesn't have the fan turn on until 60C. Pretty solid board with lots of connectivity. At 50 CM you'll roughly be able to take about 6 dB off those numbers. Maybe now that AMD has shown they were able to design a competitive microarchitecture while being so deep in the red, perhaps VIA will get some guts and give it a shot. I can confirm that my chipset fan only spins on boot-up, and then shuts off per my custom curve. Transmeta actually used a bit of a loophole; they designed a chip where the silicon didn't violate any patents, but they had a type of VM or whatever that ran I think on the system BIOS which emulated x86. The problem is implementing this in a major OS (most likely a Linux distribution) and then getting companies shipping binary software to get on-board with it. [–]lystig 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). I wish they were a bit more ready for prime time. [–]d2_ricciwaits on 3800X | AMD VII 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (7 children). Likewise for the Gigabyte. [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), When I get home I’ll link you my pc part picker build if that’s alright, I’d like to verify I’m not getting anything that’s a waste, [–]ManaForestCBD 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). My god, all that information flowing! In the case of game engines for instance, it would only take like one company to make an open source engine that dominates everything else, for others to feel the pressure and realize there is no money in keeping theirs closed anymore. The gpu doesn't stress the chipset unless you run multi-gpu depending on the board. I found no video that shows the bios on that motherboard. I would prefer a proper beefy heatsink if needed. Before the BIOS that had that setting, the fan noise was driving me insane. Love it :D, [–]bbqwatermelon 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]freddyt55555 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). New Cyberpunk patch 1.05 actually makes performance worse on AMD 8 core CPUs? How was your experience with installing and whatnot? It's more than I've ever spent on a motherboard but its been worth the extra 30-50ish dollars over the 470 board I was going to get. I have a Pro X570-A. I dont see a reason for idle to be active cooling. I don't see that many people competing in that segment other than Intel and AMD. I'd argue that a decent CPU cooler will probably have a larger impact than a new case -if- your cpu cooler is currently the loudest part. I’m not sure if it’s a bad thing but it’s definitely bigger than my board. [–]thermiderp 36 points37 points38 points 1 year ago (4 children). for us PC users it's going to take a while to convince us maybe X86 will remain to be the advanced user platform. Cyrix showed that it was possible to make a compatible CPU without infringing on patents and won a lawsuit Intel had filed against it that had claimed otherwise. From wikipedia. But it's a good question. This sound is at load and clearly very loud; no case is going to muffle that fan whine. [–]venzoja 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]ckmanux 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Got my Aorus x570 Master motherboard and will be replacing the x570 chipset fan with Watercool's Heatkiller NB/SB chipset Waterblock. Sep 25, 2020 #49 I. Ice009 Weaksauce. This does work on my ASUS prime x570-p to control the PCH fan #5 and enabled me to isolate that the mobo fan adds basically no extra noise to my system. If you have a question regarding the way a rule was or was not applied to a particular post or comment, please message us via modmail. No idea what you're saying "no" too. Via has x86 license so yeah if via can come back we would have a 3rd competitor, [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children). Yeah I’m using just a regular nvme in the cpu lane and I also dropped my GPU to pci gen 3 and turned off boost at the moment and temps have been much better than at stock. Yeah I know about VIA, I didn't mention them because they haven't really done much for a long time. Anyway that is what warranty is for and if you have decent consumer laws than your bother in $ is covered by Asus as well. Patent licensing might not be an issue. As for why only Intel and AMD do x86, it's because of patent licensing. AMD X570 Chipset. I flashed the BIOS using a USB drive via MFlash, and then rebooted. I do not think anybody has tested it yet. I would prefer a proper beefy heatsink if needed. I've never seen her channel before. Exactly for the reason you're asking actually: If you add a tiny bit of airflow, even a big open-design GPU for example in the slot above it, the fan won't even spin up at all on the GB/MSI boards. The fan does kick on til it hits 50. You can finally change LED color on the reference RX6000 series cards! REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 27458 on r2-app-005550a1c2b16eca0 at 2020-12-20 08:56:43.636415+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: PL. Mind you, I dont think the GPC is a bad board at all, I've got it here and it looks great and the VRMs dont heat up at all. I don't think it works, otherwise why would new Mesa releases on many distros like Arch pull in newer versions of LLVM and not work if you mix/match old and new unless you recompile? [–]pbkoden 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (11 children). lol, another gadget to think about. [–]Krt3k-OfflineR5 1600 + V64 Nitro+ | Envy x360 13'' 4700U 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child), Reliability will be the biggest concern, though MSI said that they are using dual ball bearing fans only, Asus seems to go with sleeve on all X570 except for the WS I think. But are you asking for chipset temps on those same states? Don't mean a goddamn thing and never have. where hitting the limit with x86, [–]azeiaRyzen 9 3950X | Radeon RX 560 4GB 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). GIGABYTE X570 motherboards based on the AMD X570 Chipset provide full support for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors. Thus far there really isn't anything else other than Intel, Nvidia and AMD. Competition from AMD and Intel killed Cyrix, got Transmeta to give up and put VIA into a comatose state. Was she inspired by hardwarecunucks video style? The X570 Taichi as of the 1.60 bios will allow a zero speed on the custom curve. No coil whine when the ace spins up. It's worth noting that this kind of centralized business model and arrogance is what fucked Apple over back in the 70s/80s. If such a thing were implemented and adopted, people could easily switch between aarch64, arm64, ppc64, etcetera depending on whatever ISA gives the best performance when they are buying hardware. Variance between the boards of a given brand is small. [–]nwash57 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). At the time of writing, this is the cost of PCIe 4.0 compatibility, but a PC modder called DerRuehrer has decided to work around this issue on his ROG Strix X570-E. I get that patents help drive innovation, but imagine paying Ford to put the gas pedal on the right. I've noticed msi have their fans positioned lower down to avoid gpu obstructions as well.. Originally, patents were supposed to protect manufacturing processes, so for example, TSMC's 7nm fabrication process, could be protected, but you shouldn't be able to patent like an instruction set, which in a way is kind of like an API for hardware. No concern. There's still not a single white X570 board available, which is plainly ridiculous. Which is great of course. If you really want to go OC mode, I dont think the X570-E from ASUS (which is ok-priced here, but i think not worth it in the US vs the Hero iirc) is a bad option per sé.

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